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FOX Business
Oct 4, 2012 5:00pm EDT
: president obama was wearing blue and mitt romney wearing red. that is the beginning. 52% thought romney's hair looks better. >> he has nice hair. little gray. melissa: they both have good hair. 51% thought that the pet's makeup looked better. how do you judge that? could you really even tell? i don't know. close calls. who looked better? >> i couldn't tell. i knew what you were going to ask us. bomb, obama was looking down so much. whenever romney looked at obama he would square up with obama, obama was looking down and couldn't tell what he was wearing or what he looked like. melissa: what do you think. >> i think the same thing. the demeanor played a lot who looked better on debate. melissa: i wonder how do they decide who wears red, blue, red state, blue state. red is power. blue is calming? >> i never like that designation, democrats blue as republicans red. i think conspiracy by the left-wing media is red is angry color. look at me i'm wearing red right now. melissa: what color tie would you wear if you were in the debate? >> i don't know. melissa: yellow. >> demeanor you have that is imp
FOX News
Oct 4, 2012 6:00am EDT
debate was received. look at the instant polls. cn n did one with two-thirds thought that romney won . twitter, watching live from the couches. bill maeh. i can't believe i am saying this. obama looks like he does need a teleprompter. >> gretchen: and a tweet from larry sabito. i can't wait to hear the back story how a obama debate team misjudged the face off. poor prep. >> brian: by the y firing back angry big bird opened up her twitter site or is it a he. if you know. >> steve: his first name is pat. >> brian: maybe. all right. said i like pbs and in response to mitt romney. how can romney cut big bird. the more he tweets and the angrier i got. i put it on twitter. i asked what people thought and zillions of responses and one of which is from, they say that romney's new song how do you like me now. >> gretchen: london telegraft said mitt romney is not like ronald reagan obama looks like jimmie carter. >> steve: a number of people on the left said this is not going well for our guy in the debate. in fact, afterwards, they couldn't blame the president for being poorly prepared, but m
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 11:00pm EDT
ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. >>> coming up, new poll numbers show mitt romney's 47% commen
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 8:00pm EDT
thoughts on this? >> no surprise. the same stuff. i go back. if mitt romney would pick up the phone and call john boehner, join our effort, we're putting pressure on boehner to pass this. 20 senators have signed a letter. come to our grass roots. put pressure on boehner. we'll schedule this trade enforcement legislation for china. that will make a real difference in jobs. not the stuff that romney is talking about. >> you're not going to get a letter from mitt romney. you have a great idea, senator, but any candidate that would use forced workers to be props in a campaign, i wouldn't count on him for anything. sherrod brown with us here on "the ed show." lots more coming up in the next half hour. stay right here. >>> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> republican voter suppression in pennsylvania is dealt a death blow in the courts. but the cheating goes on in colorado. tonight an update on the rnc voter fraud scandal. >>> early voting starts today. today. >> the first lady is firing up supporters as voters swarm the polls. we'll br
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 5:00pm PDT
the county? >> you work for romney obama? >> i thought you were rej sterg voters. >> i am. >> who are you registering? all voters? >> i'm trying to register people for a particular party because we're out here in support of romney actually. >> who is paying you for this? >> let me see, we're working for the county clerk's office. >> that went viral. strategic allied consulting fired that girl in the video. and it denies any wrong doing whatsoever. here's the bottom line. the republicans talk about preventing voter fraud but they get real quiet when they get caught doing the cheating. joining me tonight is rick polasio, chairman of the democratic party. there's this operation going on here in the state of colorado. why isn't voter registration, this scandal, getting more attention this n this state? >> it should be getting more attention. it's outrageous that the republican party decided to hire a firm with such a long and sorted history of committing fraud. it's happening here in and in other states and it's unfortunate that more media outlets haven't been picking this story up. >> th
FOX News
Oct 4, 2012 10:00am PDT
voters. two of them told me that they thought mitt romney showed gravatas, that he could be on the same stage with the president. nonetheless to be clear these obama voters said they were still likely to be with the president but they saw something new from mitt romney, a spark if you will. from the president what i saw just a moment ago was a president who seemed to realize that he had missed opportunities last night, that time after time when mitt romney punched him last night he did not counter punch, so he tried to do that today. take a listen to this. >> the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that is because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. [cheers and applause] >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> reporter: now, for example, last night mitt romney at one point said that maybe the president needs a better accountant to figure out
MSNBC
Oct 6, 2012 10:00am EDT
since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr. romney's plan as stated in the debate may in fact sound right to you. but don't call it new. it's a been there, done that track record. lower taxes on the rich, simply don't lead to job growth. when you compare the top marginal income tax rate, the tax rate that top earners get taxed over the highest threshold with employment, growth happens when taxes are higher, not lower. let me show you a chart that the president could have used this week to simplify the whole debate. this is what the election boils down to right here. larry bartels' chart makes it clear, under democratic presidents, everyone does better, even the very top. talk about trickle-down big government but more importantly, americans are
CNN
Oct 3, 2012 7:30pm PDT
expected this. i think mitt romney won the debate. >> you thought there was a moment that mitt romney was particularly strong. i'll play that and then we'll talk about it. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. and the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. craft a plan at the state level that fits the needs of the state and then let's focus on getting the costs down for people. >> mitt romney several times taking the fight to president obama. rarely did president obama take the fight to mitt romney. >> he wouldn't really engage with mitt romney. mitt romney would take him on on every issue, including the question of health care in massachusetts. you know, he didn't back away from it. to me, what's interesting about mitt romney this evening is that he's a very different mitt romney from the one we
CNN
Oct 5, 2012 8:00pm EDT
the original comment from mitt romney which i thought mitt romney was very clear on what he was saying, and now ari is trying to explain the new comment of mitt romney, where he was very clear when he said he was wrong. ari, there's no need for spin. there's no need for explanation. mitt romney said i was wrong. the bottom line is why is he saying this? because he knows that he has been hurt by it. he knows full well that when he is now going to the final days of the campaign that he was hurt by it and people who likely are voting for him are in that same category. >> was it a mistake for president obama not to ask him about the 47% during the first debate? >> it was a mistake of president obama not to ask about that. it was a mistake for president obama not to say mitt romney, are you calling out fellow republicans who refuse to vote for the veterans jobs bill in the united states senate? he left a whole bunch of stuff on the table he could have brought up but he absolutely should have asked him about it because it is a central issue when you talk about where we stand in this c
FOX News
Oct 5, 2012 3:00am PDT
mitt romney won and 25 percent thought president obama. was it a much-needed gamer. allor - author of the here comes the black helicopters . the loss of freedom. dick, how big of a bounce will mr. romney get? >> i would think four or five points. according to the current polls, that would take him from two or three behind to two or three ahead. in reality it will take him five nationally and put him in the lead significantly in florida and virge virge - virginia and a smaller lead in ohio. i did a study with my friend johnn, a fellow pollster and he looked at exit polls when voters came out of the voting booth. they were asked what is yourr party reference? democrats had a one point edge . went to 13 surveys done by the media in september, and he found in those, there was a combined 8 point democratic edge. those polls are 7 points wrong . so when they show in ohio that mitt romney is down by 5. they are saying it is a tied race there and when this thing in virginia where i was here yesterday giving speeches. he is probably about five ahead. >> gretchen: sorry. >> they are waiting
CNN
Oct 6, 2012 4:30am PDT
president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not very popular. how does play in florida with all those seniors? >> right now in florida, you've got about 12 million registered voters. 36% who are republicans, you have 40% who are democrats. and then the 24% or the remainder is going to be the most important percentage in america and i think it's 24% who are not registered republican or democrat. these are going to be the most important voters in the united states. but, let's look at medicare. you have mitt romney who says, i want to give you vouchers, which i personally don't agree with. but what would you rather have? vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicar
FOX Business
Sep 28, 2012 9:20am EDT
wall street journal, in north carolina, a state they thought romney would lead. barack obama leads. let's deal with north carolina, i thought that romney would win that. >> well, look, this is the closest state in 2008 for obama of all the battle ground states, this is the one that romney is doing the best in, but not doing very well anywhere, in fact, only within the margin of error in north carolina and that poses a problem for him. new hampshire, again, i would have thought romney would be winning significantly in new hampshire, but he's not. down 51-44. >> big change in new hampshire, who is better able to handle the economy, romney used to be seen that way, and right direction, wrong direction, down 20 points, people thinking he was going the redwing direction, and previous polls now only 7. again, new hampshire better off economically than other places and romney neighbor's state isn't helping him in michigan or massachusetts. stuart: let's get to the big debate. you know what the debate is are your polls, are they valid, are they accurate? there's a question about if you loo
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 10:00am PDT
, that mitt romney looked overly aggressive. when i thought about it later i thought to myself he didn't flesh out any of the issues he was talking about. he said he wouldn't raise any taxes for rich people, he said he was going to do vouchers for medicare. all of the things he's been -- he's going to defund big bird, too. i think that definitely he had a more energetic performance. i don't think, in places like colorado, that's going to impact the undecided voters who really want to know about the various candidate's policies. >> tom brokaw met with several undecided voters in colorado this week and asked what they hope to get out of the debate. let's play a little bit of that. >> looking forward the debate to see which of two candidates can position themselves, in my mind, to do a better job for the country. i see all of the advertisements. i have problems deciphering what is true, what is not true. so i think head-to-head, on television, hopefully that will bring some clarity to my decision. >> but there doesn't seem to be a lot of clarity. in fact "the washington post" editori
MSNBC
Sep 30, 2012 4:00am PDT
voter out there thought the two had things worked out, that romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hea
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 6:00pm EDT
. they thought this was a good sign that the romney campaign was finally going to be about something. they've been disappointed so far that ryan has been turned more into romney than the other way around. so he's the obvious person to be sent out there to talk to these guys. but i'm just not sure how soothing he can be in terms of the top of the ticket in this case. >> in terms of the soothing, dana, bob dole was very soothing to mr. romney or he wrote over this weekend an op ed piece that i'm sure was intended to be soothing. i certainly wouldn't have liked it if i was the nominee. but his intent, i'm sure, was to be soothing because he wrote no one aspires to be defeated -- a defeated presidential candidate. but then he went on further and he argued that there is light at the end of the tunnel for dole that was an improbable career, pitching visa, duncan donuts and viagra. and he goes on to say, the greatest of life blessings cannot be counted in electoral votes. so he's telling mr. romney, i assume, don't worry about it. you can do what i did and i guess that's soothing. >> it's s
FOX
Oct 3, 2012 7:30pm PDT
interrupt the flow of things by mitt romney, but fairly ssall. lots of policy. for reporters and voters who thought a lot of times this campaign has ordered a little bit too on -- to much on the cynical, there was it kind of policy tonight. you heard president obama at one. take the president -- take mitt romney to task. that did not happen until the last half-hour of the debate. for the better part of the first hour, it was mitt romney who was pn offense, challenging the president's record, addressing him directly, accusing the president of misrepresenting mitt romney. toward the end, we heard mitt romney say, you are entitled to your own house and plain, but not your own facts. there was a fair amount of %+arring back and forth. generally speaking, there demeanor's seemed like, in mitt romney's case, he is prepared to be president, and president obama is struggling with some of the strains of being president with some of a rigid somewhat of a difficult campaign. a difficult campaign. -- with somewhat of a diffi remember when you said men are superior drivers? yeah. yeah. then how'd i
FOX News
Oct 4, 2012 6:00am PDT
. one thing i thought was so interesting in this segment is when mitt romney came around and said was if you mr. president protected the five biggest banks in the country by making them too big to fail and in the process we lost hundreds of little banks around the country who had to fold. so you had mitt romney, who has classically been pegged the rich out of touch wall street type guy saying you are the one who protected wall street and let these others fall down. bill: ed rollins said this debate last night is all about mitt romney. because you want voters to sit at home and say maybe. and governor romney did that, hitting the president hard on record spending and the deficit. calling it at one moment immoral for america. >> i think it's frankly not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation and they will be paying the interest and principle all their lives. the amount of debt we are adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. bill: you see the clock and it ticks. and the point h
CNN
Oct 4, 2012 2:00am PDT
watchers surveyed thought romney ran away with it. >> we're going to bring in a democratic strategist, former employee in the clinton administration. great to have you here. dana bash is back us with. and anna navarro, a republican strategist that worked with john mccain and now a cnn contributor. we're glad you're all with us this morning. richard, you know, we have you here this morning on a day -- >> so good to be here this morning. >> a challenging day for the democrats. you saw the debate. you saw what our polls are saying this morning. >> there was a debate last night? >> yeah. >> did the president lose this? >> you know, i think luckily for me this morning history tells us that we don't know really who won or lost in terms of where it moved -- if it moved any votes until many days later. these things have to set in. but clearly, as you have been reporting already this morning and as the pundits were saying last night, i think that romney had from a theatrical perspective a great night. >> we have to wait to see what history says about who won or lost. the polls are c
CNN
Oct 4, 2012 4:00am PDT
watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more. if you will, trickle-down government, would work. a >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's "been there, done that" economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >
CNN
Oct 5, 2012 12:00am EDT
his notes, disengaging completely from mitt romney. i just thought it looked strange. >> yeah. you know, his body language, what told an incredible story, the way he communicated last night said more than he actually said with his mouth. maria said he looked into the camera. he was looking down at his notepad way more than he was looking into the camera and his body language basically said you know, i'm not interested in being here, i'm irritated i have to be here, i'm going to argue with the moderator for five seconds and i'm going to, you know, really just kind of check out of the debate. he was totally disengaged last night, and i think it was because he was in shock. mitt romney went on offense from the very beginning of the debate -- >> okay, but let me jump in there. let me ask maria that. why on earth would barack obama be in shock that mitt romney was attacking him given it's exactly what mitt romney did in the entire republican debate race, particularly in florida against newt gingrich, as he said earlier. did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debat
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 4:00pm PDT
. i thought romney's performance, let's call it that, was masterful. i don't know what the president was up to last night. your thoughts. >> well, i agree with andrew sullivan. i think he's right on in all his points and i agree with you. romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he had to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i h
KICU
Oct 3, 2012 11:30pm PDT
two together on the screen, romney is kind of smiling and smirking. >> i thought romney would fall apart. >> i give an edge slightly to obama. i think he's doing an effective job, in explaining just what he's accomplished the last four years. >> reporter: less than two miles away at the contra costa county republican headquarters, romney supporters gave their candidate high praise. >> romney needs to be personal, patient, show his plan, and he is. he has to describe how growing the economies will apply to revenues better than raising taxes. >> reporter: one romney supporter told us both men delivered strong performances. >> obama is also convincing that it is a little more freestyle, but still very organized. but i like romney appearing very organized when they first start off. >> i think he'll win the debate and the race. >> i hope. i want him to win. >> reporter: both republicans and democrats we spoke with tonight said the debate is important. but there's there's still a lot more campaigning to do before the finish line. reporting live in downtown walnut creek, amber lee, ktvu n
FOX
Oct 3, 2012 10:00pm PDT
you see the two together on the screen, romney is kind of smiling and smirking. >> i thought romney would fall apart. >> i give an edge slightly to obama. i think he's doing an effective job, in explaining just what he's accomplished the last four years. >> reporter: less than two miles away at the contra costa county republican headquarters, romney supporters gave their candidate high praise. >> romney needs to be personal, patient, show his plan, and he is. he has to describe how growing the economies will apply to revenues better than raising taxes. >> reporter: one romney supporter told us both men delivered strong performances. >> obama is also convincing that it is a little more freestyle, but still very organized. but i like romney appearing very organized when they first start off. >> i think he'll win the debate and the race. >> i hope. i want him to win. >> reporter: both republicans and democrats we spoke with tonight said the debate is important. but there's there's still a lot more campaigning to do before the finish line. reporting live in downtown walnut creek, amber lee, k
FOX News
Sep 27, 2012 8:00pm PDT
say. i did watch the authority level and i thought mitt romney was more relaxed and in control of the interview process? >> i agree. the last thing i wanted to hit on with obama, one of the things he answered the final question which a fifth closed. mitt romney seemed stiff but he a little more than a makes. there was some picture iss at the end but a satisfied grin. by the end of the clip i thought he was satisfied with the clip. >> and interviewing bill clinton about the 47% remark that mitt romney made. go. >> do you think that was smart politics? >> no. but it is interesting. you know i know a lot of higher income people who have helped me do my work. they are supporting governor romney. a lot of people say things like that. >> bill: what do you pick up there? >> when he says no. it shows contempt. immediately you know this will be interesting. you can hear the change in his voice and it changes when he talking. he is try to placate the heavy hitters and not so heavy hitters. in addition to that he sticks out his tongue that complements the disgust i talked about earlier. at the e
FOX News
Oct 4, 2012 9:00am EDT
the romney camp would probably like better this morning would be reagan-carter. any thoughts on that? >> i was just going to say there are two more debates and that's what was the case in bush and kerry. you know obama is going to come back much harder. he's a competitive guy, i'm sure he knows he did poorly. romney better be prepared because obama is going to come back in the next debate in two weeks. martha: they complained about them making him do his homework a couple of days ago, no doubt he's going to do his homework in the next two weeks. bill: chris christie predicted thursday morning would have the race in an entirely different frame. arguably he was right. martha: everybody gave him a hard time but he was right. bill: marco rubio was in prim time, the senator from florida, saying it's a new race, explaining why he thought the president looked off of his game. >> this president, you could see it in the body long he was so uncomfortable talk being about the economy, debt, taxes, because he doesn't understand the stuff. i think for the first time tonight it was revealed he doe
CNN
Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm PDT
% to 25%, they thought mr. romney won the debate. when asked who was more likeable, debate watchers gave the two candidates essentially equal marks. that's one piece of spin that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. decide for yourself if this one does from the campaign's ben lebold who suggested mitt romney last night was acting. >> it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job during a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> keeping them honest, that is precisely where the pundits, even those who support president obama, say he dropped the ball and when we asked our viewers whether mr. obama did better or worse than expected, 61%, nearly
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 2:30am PDT
on. >> hi. i got laid off in 2009. i still haven't found a job. i don't want to vote for romney. but i really thought things would be better by now. >> real change takes more than one term. or even one president. i don't know if it will even happen in eight years. might take 12. frankly, i might be long dead. who here has a job? there we go. there we go. what do you do, sir? >> i'm a manager at burger king. >> and where were you four years ago, probably working the counter, right? >> i was a vice president for bank of america. >> oh, okay. the point is that today you're a manager at one of america's biggest companies. that's a success story. probably get free burgers, right? >> no one gets free burgers. actually, i had to fire a guy for eating one while eating on the clock. >> there you go. free brick. anyone else feel they're much better off than four years ago? yes, sir? what do you do? >> i don't have a job. i just won a lot of money in a lawsuit last year. >> i see. >> yeah. i was eating at a burger king and some guy just hit me with a brick. >> there you go! circle of life. look
CNN
Oct 5, 2012 12:00am PDT
romney in his surprise visit to the conservative political action conference. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country, and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see instead a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> not to be outdone, president obama tried to rebound from his pretty weak debate performance at a rally in denver. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney. because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow onstage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> tonight, the post-debate political landscape seems rather different. a whopping 67% think mitt romney won the debate. 25% for president obama. there's a long way to go in this debate and the divide between le
Current
Oct 4, 2012 5:00pm PDT
thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's some of what he said about his tax plan and the economy. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's
FOX News
Oct 4, 2012 3:00pm PDT
some reruns this morning, i really thought governor romney was so compelling, spoke more. i have criticized him for not putting a fire in voters bellies and said he puts the audiences to sleep. not last night. chris christie was right. the governor was aggressive without being offensive. he was knowledgeable without being wonky. he was articulate without being boring. he was funny when it was necessary. he showed deference and respect to the president. it was almost the opposite of the way the president was. he seemed bored. he was boring himself. the only thing he didn't do that he could have done was a george h.w. bush, what time is it, it's time for me to go home, reference to the debate in 1992. however you measure these things, whether winning it means anything or not, chris christie may have been on to something. this might change the vector ever so much, this might change the momentum a little bit a months before election day. >> bret: clearly kirsten in that spin room, the dynamic was stark. i mean, there were only four obama folks with signs and they were not telling a g
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 8:00pm EDT
, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did today in a very forceful way and make the argument that the country is moving in the right direction. you do not want to take us back in the wrong direction. >> you know, in a lame duck session of the congress we had this big discussion about the bush tax cuts. the republicans are so far off their game right now their reaction today should have been well we told president obama to extend the bush tax cuts. you can't raise taxes on the job creators. they don't even know their own talking points. what do they do now? they come out and accuse the president and the bureau of labor statistics of cooking the books. what is the new 7.8 unemployment mean for obama's campaign strategy moving forward to get him re-elected? >> well, it gives him an opportunity to really paint the picture that we didn't do, he didn't do effectively in the debate. to me, now the stakes for the next debate become really critical. the president i
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 11:00pm EDT
it was powerful because it basically confirmed what people already thought about mitt romney, that he's not worried about the middle class, he's not worried about those struggling to get into the middle class. >> okay. >> so, you know, there are a lot of things that could have been brought up tonight. we had an aggressive, thorough conversation about the course of this race and pointing out who mitt romney is when where he wants to take this country and we'll continue doing that. we have two more debates left and 30-some-odd days and i think it will be a good race. all the way up to the end. >> you admit there were things that were left out. what about now the importance that is being placed on the vice president's role in all of this. obviously there's going to be heightened interest to see how vice president biden handles the radical paul ryan. >> well, i think you can expect the vice president to show up ready to talk about paul ryan's policies but also barack obama and joe biden's policies over the last four years and where together they want to take this country. now, in terms
FOX News
Sep 27, 2012 8:00pm EDT
go again. >> bill: in next weeks debate, can romney do what ronald reagan did to jimmy carter? megyn kelly has some thoughts. >> bill: caution the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. the likeability factor. that the subject of talking points memo. there two are kinds of voters in america those that know the issues and those that don't. emotion drives a decision and part of that equation is likeability. many people think reagan defeated carter because he came across likable while carter was distant and same thing with bill clinton and younger clinton showed more personality. bush the younger remained personally popular until the recession kicked in. right now in a popularity poll, president obama is ahead of mitt romney by throw three-points according to a new survey. after next week's debate it could change dramatically. there is no question about obama and romney realize they must come across as nice guys that is why they go on entertainment programs. >> we're is very happy you came on this a mrs. obama and brought your date? >> i brought him. he had a few minut
CNN
Sep 30, 2012 4:00am PDT
. take a look. >> i am polling people but would you vote for romney or obama. >> wait. i thought you were registering voter a minute ago. >> i am. >> who are you registered? all voters? >> i'm actually trying to register people for a particular party. >> uh-huh. >> because we're out here in support of romney actually. i am. >> and who's paying you for this? >> oh, the -- let me see. we're working for the county clerk's office. >> okay. you cannot come out here and register one party, lady. are you working for the county clerk's office? i've got it all on tape. you're working for the county clerk's office? >> i believe so, yes. >> and you're only registering republicans? >> nope. >> you said you're only registered romney people. >> we're trying to to be honest. >> and you're workinger for the romney office? >> in all fairness she sounds confuse order afraid. either way she said she was working for the county clerk's office but they said that's absolutely not true. he also said my office does not and will not engage in partisan voter registration. one local official she actually worked
NBC
Oct 4, 2012 6:30pm EDT
romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. >> mitt romney was greeted with thunderous applause this morning. >> last night, i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see very different visions for the county 2ri. >> the morning after, even supporters said the president seemed tentative, defensive, frequently looking down at his notes like ford, carter, bush and bush. almost too accustomed to the oval office. not used to being challenged. most surprising, the president did not use some of his most potent attack lines. mitt romney's comments that 47% of the country don't pay federal income taxes. or romney's position on women's health issues. the president's surrogates tried to shift the subject to romney. >> romney says he's going to cut loopholes, but won't name them. >> romney clearly came to play, aggressive but polite. standing toe to toe with the with the. >> you own the house, but not your own facts. >> now, governor romney's proposal that he's been promoting for 18 months calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of $2 trillion of addit
Current
Oct 3, 2012 10:00pm PDT
gore: i said before the debate that i thought that romney was going to be a better performer tonight, because he knows how far behind he is and he had to bring his a game and i think he did. i don't think it was the best debate performance for president obama. i agree with you we'll have to see how the specifics on the substantive issues settle in as people reflect on them. but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting president obama, and i think he is going to win, but i don't think this was his best night. >> cenk: governor grandholm? [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i'm sad to say that i agree, and i really really am sad to say that i agree, because i so wanted to be wrong about thinking that romney was going to come out swinging. i think the president -- he was right on facts, but there were opportunities that were missed. so the not saying -- not hitting back on the $716 billion was a missed opportunity. i know the fact checkers -- >> al gore: and romney said it five times. >> cenk: or six times. >> jennifer: and th
NBC
Oct 4, 2012 4:00pm EDT
analysis of last night's big debate. >> mark, instant polling and survey say they thought romney won the debate, and the president didn't help himself. do you agree with that? >> i pretty much do agree. look at the body lang raj from the campaign, obama was trying to do a little bit of cleanup. when you have to do that, you end up getting the better of the debate performance. i was surprised in a way that president obama's initial level was a bit down. mitt romney was concise. he was assertive. we had seen all those things during the republican primary season. i wasn't surprised about that, but was surprised president obama didn't have the energy level to meet it. >> we had mentioned the surveys that have come out. and most people who watched it seemed to think that romney won. steve handelsman showed us that headline. when does that translate, or does it translate in the polling? >> that's the great question. we haven't seen ygreat surveys. some folks believe this electorate is locked in there. then again, this could end up having some type of change. i would just warn people a litt
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 12:00am PDT
hand, it did show that most people thought romney won the debate. >> yeah. >> but it also showed that romney didn't appear to add that much to his favorable rating from the debate. just a little bit more, actually, than obama who actually did add a little bit. and that the people, according to stan greenberg's polls, the only people he saw shifting in his big focus group were republican leaning undecideds and he found no erosion for obama. so if obama begins to turn it around now, he could begin to contain whatever damage that debate caused. >> yeah. you know, here's governor john sununu, one of the surrogates for mitt romney who has said this kind of stuff before. here it is. >> i find it fascinating, now this morning after they've slept, to watch them all scrambling around to clean up the mess the president left on the floor last night. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> sam, what about that? >> i mean, what's to add? it's kind of absurd. it's obviously provocative. he wants to get a headline out of it. it's john sununu. there's not much to
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 6:00pm PDT
first debate, wouldn't you? >> well, that's great advice for mitt romney. i actually thought that stephanie cutter was lowering expectations for the president. she likely agrees with your assessment, piers, in that she already ceded that mitt romney is a good debater, he certainly showed that in florida and during the primaries, he's a great debater. he put away the race there, really. and that underdogs usually get on the stage with the president of the united states, they feel that vibe, they're at parity and i think she basicsly broadcasting it's okay and we expect it if the underdog wins here. but here's what i think has to happen for mitt romney. he needs to bring this race back to a referendum on obama. it was a referendum on president obama for awhile as any re-election should be, then it was a choice. now it's actually a referendum on mitt romney. he needs to shift the referendum back into the incumbent and have the debate questioners really hold the president to account for some answers in libya, his silence on syria and certainly the economy. >> jennifer, it's going to b
CNBC
Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm EDT
on the real mitt romney. so i thought it was a very intense and very telling contrast. >> all right. susan crown, many thanks for coming on the show. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> good luck in the last month of this campaign. up next on "kudlow" the romney stock market rally. up 81 points on the dow. our market prose ontment implications of last night's presidential debate. a lot of implications if there's a romney victory. >>> later in the the show, america's warriors being denied the right to vote. this is so despicable. and we'll go into it with you. folks, please don't forget what susan crown just said. what mitt romney just said. what i say. free market capitalism is the absolute best path to pros pa prosperity. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just the
CSPAN
Sep 29, 2012 4:00pm EDT
%, there's not going on for romney. they thought they could do it in wisconsin. the problem is it is twofold. if you look at the level of demographic change that is taking place in wisconsin, it is quite startling. you have three point increase in the share of minority eligible voters. a four. among white college graduates and a seven. decline among non-white college voters. it goes against what is and the interest of the romney team. maybe they thought it they nominated paul ryan they would be able to take advantage of what they believe to be this mass of cultural conservatives like class voters. it does not seem to be happening. they're making some progress. it is not anywhere close to what is needed to take the state. there are not able to master this in the ongoing demographic change. florida is a state that if the romney campaign loses florida, their chances of winning the election are close to zero. right now the romney campaign is running a little bit ahead. if we look at the pattern of support among groups like hispanics and the white working class, it's a be the best group f
FOX News
Oct 5, 2012 10:00pm PDT
how does he attack romney? they will tell him to do it. they are talking about bain capital, that reduce it's. >> greta: i thought he was smart not to do that -- he wants to look presidential. he doesn't want his fingerprints on petty and going after someone. i think it is same is true of governor romney, vis-a-vis president obama. they can flood the market with the super pacs. >> exactly, exactly. if the president goes at the 47% and bain capital and the tax returns, it diminishes the president and it reduces him from the presidential level. and it makes him look petty and it makes hymn him look not like his greatest asset is that people say he's a nice guy who has been doing his best. he gets into that mode and he risks his most priceless asset. but brit hume's point. he has a tough, almost impossible record to defend, i mean, in terms of was it a good economy? it's been the worst economy we have had in the lifetime of most american and it is numbers are there. so how does he defend it if romney keeps smiling and going after him? >> greta: he has to communicate to the voters and
FOX News
Oct 5, 2012 7:00pm PDT
that they are able to defend their record and it togo after romney on has plans. >> greta: i thought it was great to have that number this morning. >> that unemployment number or the unemployment figure is the single most important number in the cam pape. you can talk about -- you know, u6 or the people who are discouraged job seekers or people with part-time jobs, what if you figure which was 8.1 and is now 7.8%, that's a huge bit of luck for the president. >> greta: vigotten emails from detrackor who is say we are back to where we started with them and there has been no progress. because that's where we were in january '09. it's a good number. but that's what he is hit up with. >> that's what americans have to decide. theyville to decide, was it such an enormous calamity that the president inherited that getting us back to where we were is a success and shows signs of recovery? or is it not enough? governor romney has charged it's a molasses recovery that has barely been a recovery at all. getting us back to where we were, to the white house is in a lot of way, an enormous victory,
FOX News
Oct 6, 2012 1:00am EDT
beginning to think he might be working undercover for governor romney? i am just kidding. if you thought you did know governor sarah palin, think again. there is a new tell-all. two people who have hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, yoargeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. >> the show of force yesterday with heavily armed and the media was in there a day -- two or three days later. i don't understand. was the media reckless? >> i think the med
ABC
Sep 30, 2012 9:00am EDT
couple of weeks for mitt romney. the president has opened up leads and a battleground states , wisconsin, florida, colorado. thewould have thought that of an ambassadorr libya, attacks on embassies would havele east, offed mitt romney a golden to reframe the he can seem to get their. politico began a piece on fririy us what the probl not clint etwood and chair, the 47% video, media bias mitt.co says it is judge for yourself. >> quite a guy. paul ryan, isn't that something? ryan! ryan! >> with a second, romney-ryan, ryan.y- >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika joe."nski on "morning "slowly and reluctantly, republics working for mitt romney are concluding thafor all his gifts as a leader and model, he is not a good political candidate in this e ra." mark?t fair, >> it fair, and you want to the numbers. wherever mitt romney goes, his unfavorable numbers go up. at 35%ida in may, he was personally. is a 48% unfavorable. ohio, he was at 35%, now 49%. it is problem. that has just been in the .everse with obama what you do? mitt does nonot have a rose garden. charles, you
FOX Business
Oct 6, 2012 12:00am EDT
out of time, i thought of you when mitt romney mentioned spain during the debate. let me play that clip and get your reaction on the other side. >> spain, spain spend 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. melissa: what do you think? are we going down the path of spain? >> i think that this is one of the great political debates of our time and i think that mitt romney was right to join it with president obama. i think president obama's policies and his political vision are fundamentally that of french democrats, rather like francois hollande. i think mitt romney's are a traditional conservative republican. i thought during the debate he sounded actually, he echoed themes that you would associate with dwight eisenhower. so i think this is a great debate to be joined politically. i think that romney is raising real risk but there are people on the left who would like to see a stronger centralized government, not just as a safety net but all of these elements and you can see
FOX Business
Oct 5, 2012 5:00pm EDT
francois hollande. i think mitt romney's are a traditional conservative republican. i thought during the debate he sounded actually, he echoed themes that you would associate with dwight eisenhower. so i think this is a great debate to be joined politically. i think that romney is raising real risk but there are people on the left who would like to see a stronger centralized government, not just as a safety net but all of these elements and you can see what the problems are. as margaret thatcher once said, the problem with socialism that sooner or later you run out of other people's money. melissa: right. absolutely. professor, thanks for coming on. have a great weekend. >> you too. melissa: so here's the question of the day, will president obama get a bump in the polls next week because of today's jobs report? we want to hear what you think. like us on facebook at facebook.com/melissafrancisfox or follow me on twitter at melissaafrancis. >>> frustration over a fracking rules has a bipartisan group of senators fighting back. north dakota senator john hoeven is here exclusively to exp
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 8:00pm PDT
tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up a big win for the economy means mitt romney is losing his favorite talking point. democratic strategist chris covinas will tell us what 7.3% unemployment means for the romney campaign. stay with us. we're coming right back. maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >>> coming up the new unemployment number means the death of a gop talking point. democr
CNN
Sep 30, 2012 8:00am PDT
-september than there was for the romney ryan campaign this year. >> final thought. >> i think chrystia, that they got spooked. sometimes i feel like the romney campaign is trying to win the press over. >> don't listen to the geniuses in the medial room. chrysa freeland, ramesh ponnuru and ana marie cox sfwhie is he hard. >> he's an eloquent man with perfect speech. >> live to tame from new york, my sitdown with darld hammond. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. heaven on your palate." in other heavenly news, all our yoplait light flavors are now 90 calories each. and cue the angels. what? ok. we don't have angels. yoplait. it is so good. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ to start her own in
ABC
Oct 5, 2012 6:30pm EDT
more hiring in recent months than first thought. and romney working to win over voters who are out of work. now offering this about those comments he made about the 47%. the americans, he said, he doesn't worry about, those he said he can't convince to take personal responsibility. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question/answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, that's just completely wrong. >> reporter: now, all day there's been chatter among well-respected names that this number now below 8%, just weeks before the election, is, well, suspicious. i asked the romney campaign late today if they believe the numbers are legitimate. one key adviser said they'll leave the speculation to others, that, quote, we'll deal with the numbers, diane, as they've been reported. >> david muir, glad to have you back in from the campaign trail. >>> and amid those questions being asked, we decided to track down some answers. abc's jonathan karl spent the day looking into these new numbers and what t
NBC
Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm EDT
not want to be held accountable to the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. >> mitt romney was greeted with thunderous applause this morning. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. >> the morning after, even supporters said the president seemed tentative, defensive, frequently looking down at his notes. perhaps like some of his predecessors in debates. ford, carter, bush and bush. almost too accustomed to the oval office. not used to being challenged. the president did not use some of his potent attack lines. mitt romney's comments to wealthy contributors that 47% don't pay federal income taxes and are dependent on the government or romney's possession on women's health issues. >> romney says he's going to cut loopholes, but won't name they will. romney said i'm going to replace obama care, but won't say with that. >> romney clearly came to play, standing toe to toe with the president. through plenty of fireworks. >> your title is the president of an airplane an
CNN
Oct 4, 2012 1:00pm PDT
. >> i thought romney was pretty effective in turning around what could have been a liability into an asset last night on the whole issue of health care reform. listen to this. watch this. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i liked the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. as a matter of fact, when massachusetts did something quite extraordinary, elected a republican senator to stop obama care, you pushed it through anyway. so entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together and having a discussion on this important topic -- >> you can see the president's face he was obviously upset when he heard that romney worked with democrats and republicans in massachusetts but the president failed in his ability to score some sort of bipartisan health care reform in washington. >> because it simply isn't credible coming from mitt romney. mitt romney is the godfather of obama care. he passed health care reform in massachusetts. he said it
CSPAN
Oct 5, 2012 1:00am EDT
debate than any of us here can remember. i thought gov. romney did a fabulous job on both the relative basis. comparing mitt romney with performances that we usually see, quite fabulous. on a nominal basis, he did very, very well. i think it is true to say president obama is a superior or turk. i think mitt romney is a better debater. romney, you know, we saw something that we had not seen in a long time. it occurred to me that this reminded me more of the mitt romney i met in 1994 when he was running for the senate and came by and met with me and was incredibly an impressive and analytical and fact driven and pragmatic. this was that guy, not so much the person who had been pretending to be an ideologue for the past few years. obama seemed to be like a team sitting on a lead. i would not have said smog it, i would have just said somebody who did not seem to be terribly hungry for it. -- i would not say smug, just somebody that was not hungry for it. i did not really big in these examples after, i do not particularly care for them. -- these instant polls, i didn't care for them. when y
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 7:00pm PDT
strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the president and the president's plans and an attack on governor romney. and at that time in 2008. i noticed that palin focused on her record and her family. it was me centered and i can see paul ryan walking down that same path and the work that he has done in congress rather than making it about governor romney and president obama. >> do you think the age difference will be a factor? >> yeah. almost exexactly the same age different from 1988. that was a situation where quail looked like the young day. and it was like an old testamen
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 3:00am PDT
united states looked as if he thought being there was beneath him on this stage with governor romney. this is beneath me. and you just wonder how that plays out in people's minds as they watch that. >> it's the george h.w. bush watch moment. that's the only thing he didn't do was look at his watch last night. you know, you wrote a book about this guy. you know him pretty well. you know who was watching last night going, i can't believe what i'm seeing? bill clinton's thinking, okay, i saved his convention. do i have to -- i mean, you know bill clinton, along with every other democrat, was pulling his hair out last night. >> oh, yeah. >> so many softballs lobbed barack obama's way that he just didn't take a swing at. >> i think that when you look at those debates four years ago, all obama had to do was to show up and to be calm. they were -- we were in the midst of an economic panic. and he showed, you know, a very calm and steady demeanor which was reassuring. but he's never actually had to make a case in a debate. and he couldn't make a case last night. he couldn't even make a case
MSNBC
Oct 4, 2012 6:00am EDT
romney, despite what cheetos eaters thought on the internet, because he had a horrible, horrible month. he was uncomfortable in his skin. last night that guy was -- i agree, the best republican debate in over 20 years. i would say you have to go back to 1980s to find a debate that good. i don't know where mitt romney has been u, but my god, he showed up last night. >> he was comfortable. his jokes were funny. he wasn't forced. he wasn't stilted. and he came with information. that was an incredible substantive debate on both sides. >> william, i'm so glad you said that. middle of the debate. we've been trashing both camps. i looked up at the scream and said oh my god. we have two really intelligent guys here. one guy extraordinarily successful in the business world. and they're fighting out two world views. >> president obama was not ready for this mitt romney. mitt romney was well prepared. he came with tacts. he came with the argument. you may not agree with all of them. in terms of pure debating, he out debated the president. >> there's no question. and it is two stories. mitt romney
WETA
Sep 29, 2012 6:00pm EDT
institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> it has been a rough couple of weeks for mitt romney. the president has opened up leads in battleground states like ohio, wisconsin, florida, colorado. you would have thought that the assassination of an american ambassador in libya, attacks on embassies elsewhere in the middle east, would have offered mitt romney hagel the opportunity to reframe the debate, but he cannot seem to get there. politico began a piece on friday by telling us with the problem is not -- not clint eastwood and the empty chair, or delete 47% video or media bias. politico says it is mitt. judge for yourselves. >> quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan, isn't that something? >> ryan, ryan. >> way to a second, romney-ryan, romney-ryan, there you go. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> joe scarborough and mika brzezinski on "morning joe." "slowly and reluctantly, republicans who love romney are concluding that for all his gifts as a leader and role model, he is just not a good political candidate in this era." is that fair, mark? >> it is affair. you want to go to the numbers. wherever mitt romney g
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